Episode 372

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9th Aug 2026

372: How PMOs Can Cut Through AI Chaos with Paul McNamara

Welcome to the PMO Strategies Podcast + Blog, where PMO leaders become IMPACT Drivers!

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A lot of PMOs are being asked to lead AI and agile transformation while still operating as reporting, governance, and oversight functions.

That is where things start to break.

Instead of simplifying work, AI can add more coordination, more noise, more duplicated effort, and more complexity.

The tools may be faster.

The organization may not be clearer.

And that is exactly why PMO and transformation leaders need to pay attention.

In this episode, I am joined by Paul McNamara, CEO and co-founder of Adaptovate, to talk about how PMOs can help organizations cut through AI chaos, redesign workflows, and move beyond pilots that never scale.

Paul has led business transformation across global organizations and works with executive teams to build the operating models, transformation capabilities, and human performance systems required to make change stick. His background spans product management, engineering, marketing, sales, leadership roles at Boston Consulting Group, and experience as a SaaS CFO.

That mix gives him a practical view of AI transformation: the business case, the operating model, the human side of change, and the delivery reality.

Together, we explore why many AI conversations are still stuck at the surface level, why measuring AI success by logins or usage can create the wrong behaviors, and why organizations risk repeating the same mistakes they made during Agile transformation.

What you’ll learn:

  • Why AI adoption metrics can create the wrong behaviors.
  • How duplicated agents can increase cost and confusion.
  • What Agile transformation teaches us about AI pilots that do not scale.
  • Why PMOs should focus on business enablement, not just process efficiency.
  • How to start with one workflow people hate and build from there.

Press play and learn how PMO and transformation leaders can bring sanity to AI chaos and help their organizations turn AI activity into measurable business IMPACT.

Connect with Paul McNamara:

Visit Adaptovate

Take the AI Diagnostic

Connect with Paul on LinkedIn

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Laura Barnard

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About the Podcast

PMO Strategies
with Laura Barnard
In this podcast, PMO leaders and those wanting to capitalize on the best of project management to deliver the organization’s strategy will uncover the hidden secrets of the best PMOs, learn the game-changing techniques that transform any PMO into a value-driven IMPACT Engine, and explore the best ways for the PMO to become an integral part of the fabric and future of an organization. After spending two and a half decades helping organizations deliver change, with 15 of those years in the shoes of PMO leader inside organizations, Laura strongly believes that there is more to making an IMPACT than templates, tools, and process. She’ll show you how to make the shifts necessary to become a business-focused PMO that will become an invaluable organizational asset. With her guests and insights, we explore the sticky situations and tough challenges PMO leaders face, from sorting through all of the “noise” about what the PMO “should” do to finding the best ways for your PMO to make an IMPACT. Listen in, and you can discover how to shift your focus from outputs to outcomes, fundamentally changing the game for your PMO and personal success.

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