Episode 310

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1st Jun 2025

310: Why Project vs. Product Is the Wrong Debate

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In this episode, I’m calling out one of the most misleading narratives in modern strategy delivery: the false choice between project-based and product-based delivery models. 

If your organization is stuck in a never-ending transformation loop — chasing Agile, shifting structures, debating delivery frameworks — this episode is your wake-up call. 


It’s not about projects vs. products. 


It’s about dysfunction vs. alignment. 


You’ll learn how the highest-performing organizations are breaking free from siloed thinking and aligning product managers, project managers, and delivery teams to drive outcomes, not just activity. If your teams are moving fast but going nowhere, it’s time to rethink your operating model — and I’ll show you how. 


What You'll Learn: 

  • Why the "project vs. product" debate is stalling progress 
  • How flawed operating models—not frameworks—are holding you back 
  • The critical role clarity executives keep overlooking 
  • How to align product vision with delivery excellence 
  • Why Agile alone won’t fix broken systems 
  • The model top-performing organizations use to accelerate results 


👉 Press play to dismantle the false narrative and learn what really drives strategy delivery. 


P.S. The IMPACT Insiders Book Club is so much more than reading a book — it's a movement. Join us for live calls, deep conversations, and a behind-the-scenes look at how to create real change with The IMPACT Engine. It’s completely free — grab your seat now and don’t miss what’s next. 

 

P.P.S. ONLY TWO SEATS LEFT!! Something Big is Coming to London! On June 13, I’m hosting a small-group, full-day workshop: IMPACT Engine Fundamentals. If you’re tired of being stuck in the task trap and ready to drive measurable business value, this is your chance. We’ll walk through the Strategy Lifecycle, explore the IMPACT Driver mindset, and give you the foundation to transform your PMO or delivery team into a strategic powerhouse. Reserve your seat now. Space running out, so don't wait! 


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Warmly,

Laura Barnard

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PMO Strategies
with Laura Barnard
In this podcast, PMO leaders and those wanting to capitalize on the best of project management to deliver the organization’s strategy will uncover the hidden secrets of the best PMOs, learn the game-changing techniques that transform any PMO into a value-driven IMPACT Engine, and explore the best ways for the PMO to become an integral part of the fabric and future of an organization. After spending two and a half decades helping organizations deliver change, with 15 of those years in the shoes of PMO leader inside organizations, Laura strongly believes that there is more to making an IMPACT than templates, tools, and process. She’ll show you how to make the shifts necessary to become a business-focused PMO that will become an invaluable organizational asset. With her guests and insights, we explore the sticky situations and tough challenges PMO leaders face, from sorting through all of the “noise” about what the PMO “should” do to finding the best ways for your PMO to make an IMPACT. Listen in, and you can discover how to shift your focus from outputs to outcomes, fundamentally changing the game for your PMO and personal success.

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